Airport neighbors complain of noise and safety issues

Airport neighbors complain of noise and safety issues
Eastside neighborhood residents have written 495 complaints on airport noise. Oceanside resident Tim Broom said low flying planes are a safety issue. Photo by Promise Yee

OCEANSIDE — Eastside neighborhood resident Tim Broom said he and fellow neighbors have been complaining about low flying planes for two years and no changes have been made.

Broom collected 495 written complaints within one month from neighbors, and talked to the city, Oceanside Municipal Airport management, and the FAA about planes that are, in his eyes, flying dangerously close to homes in his neighborhood.

“The ongoing airport issues have not been addressed,” Broom said.

“I have seven pounds worth of complaints. I have not gotten a response from the airport or City Council.”

The city and airport management said they want to address any safety issues.

Flight complaints were forwarded to the FAA, which determines air regulations. One complaint was considered valid and followed up on. Other complaints were dismissed.

Jack Driscoll, principal with Airport Property Ventures management, said the company takes responsibility for what happens on the ground.

He said he regularly talks to airport tenants and visiting pilots to remind them of the voluntary fly friendly rules.

The fly friendly rules ask pilots to follow a takeoff route above the San Luis Rey River and away from hillside homes.

Driscoll said the management company has taken additional measures and printed maps of the fly friendly route, and verbally reminds pilots of the route on each take off.

He added that overwhelmingly pilots want to be good neighbors and follow the fly friendly rules.

Broom sees a problem.

“It’s an issue of safety first and noise second,” Broom said.

“They fly 80 to 200 feet over rooftops. It’s dangerous. There’s nowhere to go except into a house.”

Driscoll said it is difficult to pinpoint what Broom and his neighbors may be complaining about, but occasionally conditions in the air can cause a pilot not to follow the fly friendly route.

“Once pilots are in the air they’re the ones who have to make a judgment on the flight path,” Driscoll said.

“There’s only one person flying the plane and it can’t be someone on the ground. If you’re not in the pilot’s seat, you can’t judge them.”

Driscoll said he speculates that occasionally a visiting pilot may show disregard and fly out of the fly friendly zone.

He added the majority of planes in the airspace above Oceanside are from other local airports and never land or take off from Oceanside Municipal Airport.

Another speculation is that the planes that Broom sees as 80 to 100 feet above his house may be an acceptable 1,000 feet above the ground below and appear close to the hillside homes.

“People don’t like planes over houses,” Driscoll said. “As friendly as they try to be, they make noise.”

Rich Grimm, owner and president of Tsunami Skydivers that operates out of Oceanside Municipal Airport, reiterated Driscoll’s comments.

He said that he meets with his pilots regularly for training which includes reviewing the fly friendly route and asking his pilots to remind visiting pilots about it through in-flight radio communication.

Broom said he has heard from Driscoll that management talks to pilots about the complaints. Broom added he is not satisfied with this gesture that, in his eyes, is not solving the problem.

“I’ve talked to neighbors and an easy 100 people are angry,” Broom said.

Broom said he is frustrated no one is stepping up to solve the problem.

Lately Broom and others neighbors have named Tsunami Skydivers as a major contributor to the noise problem.

Written complaints have listed the recognizable blue and yellow plane used by the company as flying too close to homes.

“Tsunami had 205 complaints,” Diane Strader, eastside neighborhood resident, said. “They tend to fly weekends and affect us all.”

Grimm insists he meticulously follows all airport and FAA rules.

“They are unfounded allegations,” Grimm said.

“I’ve worked hand and hand with the FAA to have the safest operation possible.”

He added that the complaints might be a matter of perception and sensitivity to legally acceptable noise levels.

“We fly exactly where the FAA tells us where to fly,” Grimm said. “Airplanes generate noise.”

Grimm predicts that the ongoing complaints about allowable noise may cause pilots to rethink using the airport and affect its business.

Driscoll said he would continue to work with Broom and others to address any complaints.

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. SeniorRights says:

    I don’t know where (if in Oceanside at all) Mr. Driscoll lives, but long-time Oceanside residents who never experienced airport noise are now inundated by it. To say that someone on the ground “can’t judge” pilots who are flying right over their rooftops (when planes never used to do so) is ludicrous, disrespectful and dismissive to those homeowners experiencing the problem. These are not “visiting pilots” . . . residents can SEE the planes taking off and landing here in Oceanside, especially skydivers. This is another instance of the Council Majority (Kern, Felien & Feller) ignoring the voters they represent. CHANGE the Council in November, CHANGE the response. DUMP KERN & FELIEN IN 2014.

  2. Tolerant N Grumpy says:

    As a 28 year Oceanside resident in the Peppertree neighborhood adjacent to the airport, I see this as just another episode in the persistent whining over nothing. I work near the San Diego airport – noise from the Oceanside airport is insignificant in comparison. A few minutes a day of minimal airplane noise isn’t worth a dime. The airport was here before the homes, and so we bought our homes knowing there were airplanes in the area. Perspective is everything!

    • SeniorRights says:

      Not everyone is experiencing the same noise. There ARE planes flying low over homes that have only begun experiencing excessive noise in the last 2 years. Especially, the skydiving planes and those flying east, not west. If it isn’t bothering your home, please be grateful and respectful of those homeowners who are. Regardless, Oceanside homeowners should expect and receive a response from the Council members their tax dollars pay for. Change the Council, change the response. DUMP Kern & Felien in 2014.

  3. jp says:

    The FAA reports the airport as being active as of June 1963. Anyone who has been a resident since May of 1963 has a voice. Everyone else….

  4. Ex-resident says:

    That airport was in existence long before those houses were built. You saw the airport when you drove into that development to look at the house for the very first time. You bought the house knowing it was next to an airport. Now, you expect the long existing airport to change.

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