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	<title>Comments on: ‘Desert Rose’ residents look to head off development project</title>
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		<title>By: Equestrian</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-2/#comment-46651</link>
		<dc:creator>Equestrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do not miss the Planning Commission meeting on November 1, 2012, 6PM.  
This decision would be precedential – it would be the making of a slippery slope which will transform Olivenhein and destroy its unique rural character and lifestyle.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not miss the Planning Commission meeting on November 1, 2012, 6PM.<br />
This decision would be precedential – it would be the making of a slippery slope which will transform Olivenhein and destroy its unique rural character and lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: nowoolovermyeyes</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-2/#comment-46640</link>
		<dc:creator>nowoolovermyeyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Community character will not be preserved or honored as long as we have a pro-development super majority on our city council. Health and safety issues will continue to be dismissed until we can elect authentic individuals whose concerns and vision are aligned with regular citizens and not with big out of town developers. Stocks and Muir may be the &quot;Developer&#039;s Dream&quot;, but they are every other RESIDENT&#039;S NIGHTMARE! A 12 year reign by a Developer Dominated council needs to be replaced by candidates dedicated to quality of life issues for all 5 communities. Our best bets are Lisa Shaffer and Tony Kranz. Educate yourselves about the most life changing issues confronting
all of us here in Encinitas and share your knowledge with 
your friends and neighbors. Our Town, as we know it, depends on your informed contribution to restoring democracy at City Hall.  It will be well worth your time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community character will not be preserved or honored as long as we have a pro-development super majority on our city council. Health and safety issues will continue to be dismissed until we can elect authentic individuals whose concerns and vision are aligned with regular citizens and not with big out of town developers. Stocks and Muir may be the &#8220;Developer&#8217;s Dream&#8221;, but they are every other RESIDENT&#8217;S NIGHTMARE! A 12 year reign by a Developer Dominated council needs to be replaced by candidates dedicated to quality of life issues for all 5 communities. Our best bets are Lisa Shaffer and Tony Kranz. Educate yourselves about the most life changing issues confronting<br />
all of us here in Encinitas and share your knowledge with<br />
your friends and neighbors. Our Town, as we know it, depends on your informed contribution to restoring democracy at City Hall.  It will be well worth your time!</p>
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		<title>By: City for Sale</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-46609</link>
		<dc:creator>City for Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who tried to develop this as they are proposing, will get sued.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who tried to develop this as they are proposing, will get sued.</p>
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		<title>By: City for Sale</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-44561</link>
		<dc:creator>City for Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This project represents a recent trend that our way of life and our valuable community character is for sale.  Let&#039;s hope that the Planning Commission and the Council do the right thing and support the right for residents to identify their own community character.  

Community character should not be determined by outsiders who wish to invade neighborhoods and vector value from local Olivenhain property owners into their own pockets.  

There are NO public benefits to this plan when current residents would be left to weather the negative impacts of this project while developers are made whole for terrible decisions and poor standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This project represents a recent trend that our way of life and our valuable community character is for sale.  Let&#8217;s hope that the Planning Commission and the Council do the right thing and support the right for residents to identify their own community character.  </p>
<p>Community character should not be determined by outsiders who wish to invade neighborhoods and vector value from local Olivenhain property owners into their own pockets.  </p>
<p>There are NO public benefits to this plan when current residents would be left to weather the negative impacts of this project while developers are made whole for terrible decisions and poor standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Huggenberger</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-43936</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Huggenberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Save Desert Rose&quot; is an initiative which has my full support. I don&#039;t know of many other businesses that would even have the audacity to try and save their project profits by destroying the home values of the residents around the project. The Planning Commission and City Council should not only be held accountable to enforce the letter but also the spirit of the current rules and regulations concerning zoning in Olivenhain. The proposed 16-unit project is in violation of those rules. PERIOD! Why is the developer fighting the commission of an EIR? The delay in the project is only a small reason. They know that such a report is likely to bury the project in it&#039;s current form. Although I would prefer for the property in question to stay the way it is, I do not necessarily oppose development of the property in general but it has to be done in compliance with the zoning rules for Olivenhain which call for larger min. lot sizes and substantially bigger setbacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Save Desert Rose&#8221; is an initiative which has my full support. I don&#8217;t know of many other businesses that would even have the audacity to try and save their project profits by destroying the home values of the residents around the project. The Planning Commission and City Council should not only be held accountable to enforce the letter but also the spirit of the current rules and regulations concerning zoning in Olivenhain. The proposed 16-unit project is in violation of those rules. PERIOD! Why is the developer fighting the commission of an EIR? The delay in the project is only a small reason. They know that such a report is likely to bury the project in it&#8217;s current form. Although I would prefer for the property in question to stay the way it is, I do not necessarily oppose development of the property in general but it has to be done in compliance with the zoning rules for Olivenhain which call for larger min. lot sizes and substantially bigger setbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: brian m</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-43689</link>
		<dc:creator>brian m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of the developer who presented plans for a new building near the end of the runway at Montgomery field.  Then he went and built a taller building, and was offended when the city made him knock off the added height.  He had assumed his connections and money would let him get his way.  These developers probably brag about the risk they take as entrepreneurs, but when a downside actually occurs they want others to shoulder that burden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the developer who presented plans for a new building near the end of the runway at Montgomery field.  Then he went and built a taller building, and was offended when the city made him knock off the added height.  He had assumed his connections and money would let him get his way.  These developers probably brag about the risk they take as entrepreneurs, but when a downside actually occurs they want others to shoulder that burden.</p>
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		<title>By: No LA For Encinitas</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-43684</link>
		<dc:creator>No LA For Encinitas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had my home and family in Encinitas for 22 years. It really saddens me to have watched it change year by year from a low-key paradise to a place more and more like LA. 

It appears that the present City Council and the City Planning Department they run do not listen to what the citizens of Encinitas clearly want, but only to the moneyed interests - Developers and Commercializers. Now we have Walmart, ever increasing traffic, less trees, houses with impossibly tiny setbacks from the road, and what looks like a death wish for the rare character of the Encinitas most citizens would fight to preserve – if only there were greater awareness of how the wonderful character of our town is being destroyed. 

We really need more citizen awareness right now of how our town is systematically being allowed to be ruined, and being allowed to be turned into another ho-hum suburb of LA by the very people we elect to preserve and cherish our community.  We need many more groups like the ‘Save Desert Rose’ group of concerned citizens, working together to save Encinitas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had my home and family in Encinitas for 22 years. It really saddens me to have watched it change year by year from a low-key paradise to a place more and more like LA. </p>
<p>It appears that the present City Council and the City Planning Department they run do not listen to what the citizens of Encinitas clearly want, but only to the moneyed interests &#8211; Developers and Commercializers. Now we have Walmart, ever increasing traffic, less trees, houses with impossibly tiny setbacks from the road, and what looks like a death wish for the rare character of the Encinitas most citizens would fight to preserve – if only there were greater awareness of how the wonderful character of our town is being destroyed. </p>
<p>We really need more citizen awareness right now of how our town is systematically being allowed to be ruined, and being allowed to be turned into another ho-hum suburb of LA by the very people we elect to preserve and cherish our community.  We need many more groups like the ‘Save Desert Rose’ group of concerned citizens, working together to save Encinitas.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Graboi</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-43545</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Graboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I oppose the project on many grounds, starting with the fact that developers went to Fish and Game and negotiated a private, oral agreement that other residents were unable to comment on.  As Fish and Game has pointed out out, they are not the lead agency in this project, and they have no real authority to trade a temporary wetlands restoration project for reduced building standards.  The authority to do this rests with the Planning Commission, and ultimate, Encinitas City Council.

Citizens’ first opportunity to weigh in on this project was for a map of 16 units in a lot identified for a maximum of 7.  This map showed a substandard private road, a firewall, artificial building pads on a lot with documented soil problems, reduced parking spaces, 2-car—not 3 car garages, and tiny lots that do not fit in with our community.  

All of these downgrades were allegedly granted (by an agency that points out that they are not the lead agency) in exchange for a 3-year program to clear weeds from the wetlands and to replant if with a few native plants.  After 3 years, there will be no obligation to maintain this program, yet community members would be stuck with a dangerous and unfitting project, which in the long term, would prove more injurious to the wetlands than if they simply built in keeping with our current zoning.  Carlsbad residents will have their natural view corridor diminished when many mature trees are replaced with views of a hardscape vista of firewalls, roofs, and driveways.  The proposed yards are miniscule.

If developers’ purpose were really to restore the wetland area that locals call Hodges Creek, there are many other houses downstream that border on this wetland.  We would be willing to work with nonprofits that specialize in this type of project to this disappearing resource.  Why didn’t they let us become involved, or at least weigh in on the wetlands restoration plan?  

To use an inadequate, temporary, wetlands restoration project as a means to pack on more houses is disingenuous and harmful to our community.  Those of us and our children who love these wetlands were never allowed to be part of the solution because the real reason that they got an oral agreement was to develop the property as densely as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oppose the project on many grounds, starting with the fact that developers went to Fish and Game and negotiated a private, oral agreement that other residents were unable to comment on.  As Fish and Game has pointed out out, they are not the lead agency in this project, and they have no real authority to trade a temporary wetlands restoration project for reduced building standards.  The authority to do this rests with the Planning Commission, and ultimate, Encinitas City Council.</p>
<p>Citizens’ first opportunity to weigh in on this project was for a map of 16 units in a lot identified for a maximum of 7.  This map showed a substandard private road, a firewall, artificial building pads on a lot with documented soil problems, reduced parking spaces, 2-car—not 3 car garages, and tiny lots that do not fit in with our community.  </p>
<p>All of these downgrades were allegedly granted (by an agency that points out that they are not the lead agency) in exchange for a 3-year program to clear weeds from the wetlands and to replant if with a few native plants.  After 3 years, there will be no obligation to maintain this program, yet community members would be stuck with a dangerous and unfitting project, which in the long term, would prove more injurious to the wetlands than if they simply built in keeping with our current zoning.  Carlsbad residents will have their natural view corridor diminished when many mature trees are replaced with views of a hardscape vista of firewalls, roofs, and driveways.  The proposed yards are miniscule.</p>
<p>If developers’ purpose were really to restore the wetland area that locals call Hodges Creek, there are many other houses downstream that border on this wetland.  We would be willing to work with nonprofits that specialize in this type of project to this disappearing resource.  Why didn’t they let us become involved, or at least weigh in on the wetlands restoration plan?  </p>
<p>To use an inadequate, temporary, wetlands restoration project as a means to pack on more houses is disingenuous and harmful to our community.  Those of us and our children who love these wetlands were never allowed to be part of the solution because the real reason that they got an oral agreement was to develop the property as densely as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-43532</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I support the neighbors; our entire City should be represented by Council Members and Commission Members who support the rights of neighborhood self-determination to the greatest extent possible.

The law is designed to serve the people, not for the people to serve what I call loophole lawyers and pro-development politicians.

In an area so sensitive, and with such unique rural characteristics, an EIR (Environmental Impact Report) should be required.  Encinitas and other municipalities have been far too quick to hand out negative impact declarations.  Precedent requires that the law should be liberally construed to include traffic, habitat and community character and heritage within a legal environmental review, required by CEQA (California Environmental Quality Act), not simply shrug these concerns off as being &quot;beneath&quot; evaluation once minimum so-called &quot;mitigation&quot; has been performed.

Precedent also shows that if a negative impact declaration is filed, then the appealants&#039; time to challenge is extended, with respect to appealing the negative impact declaration.  In other words, the time to appeal the decision is longer than if there had been a full EIR, and the determinations of that report were challenged after being approved by the Planning Commission and Council.  

I feel the neighbors&#039; challenge is timely and should be well-received by the Court.  I hope they can get a good judge, through Everett Delano, because some of Superior Court judges are very much pro-development, as well, in their rulings, while a few have been objective and have given well considered opinions, not playing favorites with sitting &quot;powers that be,&quot; including the City.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the neighbors; our entire City should be represented by Council Members and Commission Members who support the rights of neighborhood self-determination to the greatest extent possible.</p>
<p>The law is designed to serve the people, not for the people to serve what I call loophole lawyers and pro-development politicians.</p>
<p>In an area so sensitive, and with such unique rural characteristics, an EIR (Environmental Impact Report) should be required.  Encinitas and other municipalities have been far too quick to hand out negative impact declarations.  Precedent requires that the law should be liberally construed to include traffic, habitat and community character and heritage within a legal environmental review, required by CEQA (California Environmental Quality Act), not simply shrug these concerns off as being &#8220;beneath&#8221; evaluation once minimum so-called &#8220;mitigation&#8221; has been performed.</p>
<p>Precedent also shows that if a negative impact declaration is filed, then the appealants&#8217; time to challenge is extended, with respect to appealing the negative impact declaration.  In other words, the time to appeal the decision is longer than if there had been a full EIR, and the determinations of that report were challenged after being approved by the Planning Commission and Council.  </p>
<p>I feel the neighbors&#8217; challenge is timely and should be well-received by the Court.  I hope they can get a good judge, through Everett Delano, because some of Superior Court judges are very much pro-development, as well, in their rulings, while a few have been objective and have given well considered opinions, not playing favorites with sitting &#8220;powers that be,&#8221; including the City.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
		<link>http://thecoastnews.com/2012/09/desert-rose-residents-look-to-head-off-development-project/comment-page-1/#comment-43525</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We moved to Encinitas in mid 1980s when Encinitas was called the &#039;flower capital&#039; of California/USA. Since then, I have observed our city officials approve irresponsible development and over-building of the land that were once covered with flowers. 
Our city officials again are siding with developers to take a beautiful parcel of land in Olivenhain and turn it into a high-density housing project.
If we don&#039;t stand up against this plan, many more such flawed plans will turn the characteristic of our beautiful city, making it look like a Little LA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We moved to Encinitas in mid 1980s when Encinitas was called the &#8216;flower capital&#8217; of California/USA. Since then, I have observed our city officials approve irresponsible development and over-building of the land that were once covered with flowers.<br />
Our city officials again are siding with developers to take a beautiful parcel of land in Olivenhain and turn it into a high-density housing project.<br />
If we don&#8217;t stand up against this plan, many more such flawed plans will turn the characteristic of our beautiful city, making it look like a Little LA.</p>
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