As far as Pat Murphy and his planners using the dot exercises to come up with a plan, why would we assume that any valid conclusions could be reached at all since they gave the participants maps with errors and misleading information, and there were no controls–not even dots that they couldn’t move arround. The Planning Department is not qualified in any way to do this since the lack the educational qualifications and all previous attempts have been a complete failure. The Planning Department and Peder Norby, with their history of dishonesty, reflect poorly on the entire City and its workers–which is unfair to those who are actually dedicated to their jobs.