Comments on: City denies license for medical marijuana co-op

By: Flutie

Flutie — Tue, 17 May 2011 20:40:08 +0000

@Voluntary:
I googled Von Mises. I don’t believe in a free market, nor do I believe one exists. A truly free market would allow slavery, child sweat shops, as well as other human rights and environmental abominations. When markets are unregulated, oligarchies form which control and bully the less powerful – hardly a free market. This is how the insurance and drug companies have bullied the health care market and artificially driven up costs in order to line their own pockets. That’s not freedom, that’s oppression. The fossil fuel oligarchies (as well as other special interests) are preventing our cars running on electricity and/or hemp oil, preventing solar and wind power from developing. So much for a free market. Precisely why unhindered greed needs to be regulated – to create a freer market.
Nevertheless, I don’t believe anyone has the right to dictate what you or I put in our bodies. At least we can agree on that.

By: V for Voluntary

V for Voluntary — Thu, 12 May 2011 02:14:21 +0000

*"small business owner wrote on Tuesday, May 10 at 10:53 PM »
Del Mar needs to act aggressively against Patrick Kennedy. He is in volation of city, state and federal law. It isn’t fair to lawful business owner that he is allowed to stay open."
How is Mr. Kennedy in violation of city, state and federal law? Do you have proof to support this accusation?
And further more, what isn’t "fair" is supporting acts of coercion [aggression] and extortion by city officials against a peaceful individual. Period.
There is no amount or subjective "morals" that make this fair.
**"PotCausesCancer wrote on Wednesday, May 11 at 09:30 AM-
Thank you Del Mar City Council for protecting our City against arrogant business owners who believe they are higher, pun intended, than the law. Del Mar doesn’t allow pot to be sold, for obvious reasons, and is absolutely doing the right thing and is solidly backed up by the law."
Thank you Praxeology, Liberty, and The American Revolution for constantly reminding us this country was founded on such laissez faire foundations that the continued actions of such confused imperialists~ pun intended, statists and socialist interferences on the already monopolized market will continue to push it further into it’s demise. [seeing as coercion as means to sustain a market are the very things that make it fail] Thus, in its ashes a truly free market will emerge. One where capitalism [private property and the trade of such natural resources- not to be confused with State run "capitalism"] will allow the economy to thrive. And the confused fascists who believed they could utilize the strong arm of the State will finally silence themselves, for human action [praxeology] speaks louder then words.
‘PotCausesCancer’, I don’t believe you realized this upon typing your name but you’ve created an antithesis of yourself…and to a biochemist, it’s quite funny.
***"Flutie"- I really enjoyed the quotes you added below! Great collection!
Have you heard of Ludwig Von Mises by chance?

By: 10thstreet

10thstreet — Thu, 12 May 2011 00:34:01 +0000

Medical marijuana is legal, and so are collectives for patients to access their medicine. Remember when Prop 19 passed? How about 215 & SB 420?
That being said, I would think it is in the City’s best interest – politically and financially – to work with Mr. Kennedy to figure out how Del Mar will handle this business entity in our community. The Council is supposed to lead, so lead. Lead us into the future and not into a court room.

By: Flutie

Flutie — Thu, 12 May 2011 00:25:11 +0000

Pot causes cancer?
Not according to our government which commissioned the leading authority on marijuana and cigarette smoke, Dr. Donald Tashkin, who has been researching this subject for over 30 years. In the largest longitudinal study ever done, Dr. Tashkin has found that even heavy marijuana smoking (over 3 joints a day for 15 years) does not cause cancer or emphysema.

By: PotCausesCancer

PotCausesCancer — Wed, 11 May 2011 16:30:32 +0000

Thank you Del Mar City Council for protecting our City against arrogant business owners who believe they are higher, pun intended, than the law. Del Mar doesn’t allow pot to be sold, for obvious reasons, and is absolutely doing the right thing and is solidly backed up by the law.

By: Flutie

Flutie — Wed, 11 May 2011 13:54:59 +0000

If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny
-Thomas Jefferson
Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man’s appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition
law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
-Abraham Lincoln
"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
- Albert Einstein
"Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could."
- William F. Buckley Jr.
Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest.
-John Stuart Mill
"When a private enterprise fails, it is closed down; when a government enterprise fails, it is expanded. Isn’t that exactly what’s been happening with drugs?"
- Milton Friedman
"When I was a kid I inhaled frequently. That was the point."
- Barack Obama

By: small business owner

small business owner — Wed, 11 May 2011 05:53:28 +0000

Del Mar needs to act aggressively against Patrick Kennedy. He is in volation of city, state and federal law. It isn’t fair to lawful business owner that he is allowed to stay open.

By: V for Voluntaryist

V for Voluntaryist — Wed, 11 May 2011 02:21:16 +0000

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/05/05/2011-05-05_dad_says_medical_marijuana_helped_cure_2yearolds_cancer_pop_slipped_son_pot_oil_.html
“We, as the public and as parents, are very concerned about marijuana being established in a retail setting,” -Judi Strang
Should we be concerned about this parent wanting his 2 year old child to live?

By: V for Voluntaryist

V for Voluntaryist — Wed, 11 May 2011 02:08:51 +0000

1. “The law allows patients and caregivers only to be in possession of marijuana and to circulate it among themselves."
2. “We do not think it was the intent of the law either in actuality or in the spirit of the law.”
-Stated by Judi Strang, executive director of the San Dieguito Alliance for Drug Free Youth
1. Wrong. The law allows the patient to obtain this particular product of medication through a licensed business. How else would they receive it? Surely not on the street, wouldn’t that by "illegal"? They also have the option of purchasing means to grow a certain amount of medicinal marijuana, however many patients are too sick to do so themselves. So you tell me, which option sounds more "appropriate"?
2. I was unaware laws had "spirit", and the "intent" of a law is completely subjective. However, next time I’m pulled over by a local police officer, I’ll be sure to ask him about the "soul" of the law I’ve been presumed as breaking.
The denial of Patrick Kennedy’s appeal, revoking of his license, continued citations of his business, and false assumptions in the possibility of a "unlawful act" resulting in the ignoring of this appeal through city council members is a victimless crime and unlawful act committed by city officials against an innocent citizen.
If you are so blinded by your morals to be incapable of seeing how absolutely obnoxious an act by city officials like this is against the civil rights of an individual/individuals, I’d ask you put yourself in the shoes of someone in such a case.
Imagine you were diagnosed with a medical condition for which the side effects of taking a synthetic medication outweighed the actual means for taking them. That is to say for example, you would rather be in pain then to deal with the horrible and sometimes debilitating side effects of a synthetic "legal pharmaceutical" prescribed to you. Then denied the legal ability to obtain a natural medication [for which you are prescribed by a licensed, practicing Doctor] that can do the same purpose, if not better then the synthetic.
We, the people [public] act far too often and far too abruptly on a "conservative moral" rather than considering the opposing side.
I support Mr. Kennedy’s lawsuit against the city, and against their immoral disregard for scientific fact and State law.